Could Vlad Jr. pass Shohei Ohtani in the MVP race? | PTI

On PTI, Michael Wilbon and Tony Kornheiser discuss whether they believe Vladimir Guerrero Jr. could pass Shohei Ohtani in the MVP race.

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  1. fated316

    fated31614 ਘੰਟੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is mvp. If you disagree put a massive bet and money on vlad! Dare you!

  2. 7 정

    7 정ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    MVP means Most valuable "Player" not most valuable hitter. Vlad is a better hitter but not a better player in baseball

  3. You She

    You Sheਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    they are so obsessed with triple crown thing. but they should look at the numbers of Ohtani. His pitching is as good as Kershaw. His batting is as good as Tatis Jr. So which is more valuable? Vlad Jr vs Karshaw+Tatis? I would go with Kershaw+Tatis.

  4. Ace de Pica

    Ace de Picaਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Depends on how you define MOST VALUABLE: I like Ohtani a lot and he is the most incredible player in baseball. Vladdy carries his team to the playoffs winning the triple crown is more valuable IMO. Being a Unicorn doesn't bang the same if you're not winning.

  5. BootsandUtes

    BootsandUtesਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    While the last player to win the triple crown in batting was Miggy in 2012 and preceding him was Yaz in 1967, there have been many players who were near misses for the triple crown, e.g. JD Martinez, Pujols, Nolan Arenado, Gary Sheffield, Tino Martinez, Larry Walker, Joey Votto, etc were all top 10 in the three categories. Also, Barry Bonds was on paced to win the triple crown in the early 2000s until he was walked a record number of times. During the shorten 2020 season, Marcell Ozuna flirted with the triple crown. HOWEVER, if you ask who is comparable to Ohtani or is doing what Ohtani is remotely doing, you have to go all the way back to Babe Ruth. People are saying it's historic because it is factually historic. Ohtani should win the MVP and it's not even close.

  6. happios

    happiosਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Not to take away Vlad's great season, but unless he can pitch like ohtani, you're not comparing apples to apples.

  7. M M

    M Mਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani has been doing this all season without protection in the lineup

  8. ZugZug

    ZugZug2 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is the most important baseball player of this generation. take him away and no one is even thinking about baseball right now. you want to give it to vlad? go for it. vlad isnt going to be the front page of the ny times .

  9. Smarter Ahole

    Smarter Ahole3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Who’s attracting more people to baseball right now ranging from former baseball fans who stopped watching to people who’ve never watched a game before? SHOHEI OHTANI. We’ve all seen sluggers shine, but we’ve never see a starting pitcher be just as threatening on the plate at the same time facing GLOBAL TALENT. He’s earned it, even if he doesn’t end up as the HR leader this season.

  10. Chris I

    Chris I3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    pitching + hitting = mvp

  11. J Berry

    J Berry4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad plays on a team with a stacked lineup! Take the Blue Jays making the playoffs vs the Angels not making the playoffs out of the equation. Compare WAR and you have OHTANI as the MVP!!!

  12. Mr. Nice Guy

    Mr. Nice Guy4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    When vlad starts throwing heaters then he mvp

  13. Víctor Manuel De Leon

    Víctor Manuel De Leon4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad MVP el mejor mas numero

  14. Melted nostrils Born without nostrils

    Melted nostrils Born without nostrils4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    African Americans tend to be anti-Asian. Wilbon is no exception. He even short changed Ohtani about the amount of years . And even though Vlad is Hispanic, he's still Afro-Latino, meaning Wilbon would be predjudice in favor of him .... No doubt he would vote for Vlad even if he doesn't get the triple crown, you can tell by his take .

  15. Conner Butler

    Conner Butler4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    HE ISNT WINNING THE TRIPLE CROWN LOL

  16. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Look at both rosters the fact that the Angels are now 2 games under .500 is a freakin miracle. No Trout, no Rendon, no Upton for most of the year because he's freakin old and done. Pitching is Garbage from the get go. He's their best pitcher and best hitter and sometimes willing himself, stealing base running the bases for the Angels to win. If not for Ohtani the Angels are the Orioles west. Toronto arguable has one of the best lineups in baseball with Springer, Semien, Hernandez, Bichette, Gurriel Jr. etc... Their pitching staff has 4 legit starters and the Angles have Ohtani, and a bunch of injured in and out of the lineup pitchers like Cobb, Sandoval, Bundy.....and I didn't even mention the Bullpen. I love Vlad Jr. and nothing against him, but it's not even a question to who is the MVP.

  17. Shafeek Musaphir

    Shafeek Musaphir4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is an average player at both positions. Being average doesn't make you the most valuable player. Excelling in one position, and as a result, putting your team in a position to make the playoffs - that's valuable!

  18. KenRyu

    KenRyu4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Go Blue Jays!!! Also go Asians. See they're not all nerds and geeks.

  19. Edison

    Edison4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Nobody is watching baseball because of vlad.

  20. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Facts!!!! How many have said I'm watching baseball again because of Vlad Jr. some, but I'm willing to bet Ohtani gets more votes.

  21. Emmette Bramble

    Emmette Bramble4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I am watching baseball because of Vladimir Jr.

  22. John _Red_Corn

    John _Red_Corn5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Not even close.

  23. J C

    J C5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vladdy is without question the MUCH better hitter than Ohtani. He has him beat in every statistical category except WAR and the only reason he's behind in WAR is because he has a deep team around him meanwhile Ohtani is playing on a trash team. You take out a good hitter from a horrible lineup then obviously your wins above replacement will be higher. With that being said, the guy is literally also one of the best pitchers in baseball lol... it's not that fair and clearly him for MVP. Sucks for Vladdy though, easily the 2nd best player in baseball this year and would have won the MVP the past few seasons as well if this Japanese God wasn't in his way.

  24. Arthur Au

    Arthur Au5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani because he is baseball only 2 way player will automatically win the MVP every season until he retires.

  25. arkane m

    arkane m5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is MVP to baseball and not just AL

  26. April Matsui

    April Matsui5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Blah blah blah VLad does not have 9 wins! Has not strike out one player! Think about it

  27. April Matsui

    April Matsui5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad can never pass ohtani as MVP. He doesn’t have the 9 wins!! Make him throw a 100miles pitch and win 10 games then he can be MVP

  28. April Matsui

    April Matsuiਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Michael Prasad it is the MVP we are talking about not The How far did you help your team go in the playoff award

  29. April Matsui

    April Matsuiਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Michael Prasad so what? The point is? Trout, Ichiro, where MVPs where are their playoff games? Hahhahahaha Vlad has more support from his teammates. Ohtani does not have the full balance d team to help his as much as Vlad. That makes it more an advantage to vlad. Still ohtani shines

  30. Michael Prasad

    Michael Prasad3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    And those 9 wins are doing what for the Angels?

  31. Addy Onciano

    Addy Onciano5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    HOW MANY STRIKEOUTS DOES VLAD HAVE AGAIN?

  32. Duane Anderson

    Duane Anderson5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    What is with the award nonsense ? There paid a wage to do a job. In most professions, you are paid to produce. And, there is no further inticement than doing such. All sports need to do away with this silliness. Stop handing out awards and, trophies. It just leads down a road that ends nowhere. Athletes are employees. Nothing more nothing less. So, let's ALL take a step back and, stop glorifying them. For simply doing what their paid too.

  33. 0985jose

    0985jose5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad jr He's going for a triple Crown But not just that He's going for a record hold for more than 60 years, Youngest home run league leaders in MLB history

  34. gfear24

    gfear245 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    The award is NOT Most Outstanding Player. It's Most Valuable Player. If it was MOP, Ohtani wins easily because he's doing that hasn't been seen in baseball history. With it being Most VALUABLE Player, the teams record matters. The Angels have one of the worst records in baseball. The Blue Jays are, right now, in the playoffs. That alone makes Vlad Jr. a more valuable player than Ohtani. His production is winning his teams games. Ohtani's production is just him putting up numbers.

  35. Levi

    Levi3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Hahhahaha, get real.

  36. Two Seasons

    Two Seasons5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Tell that to Trout when he won.

  37. Axxess Mundi

    Axxess Mundi5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    OHTANI is way more dynamic as a pitcher & DH.

  38. Henry Valerio

    Henry Valerio5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    VLADY IS THE REAL MVP

  39. Blee Petty

    Blee Petty5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    The politics! Why couldn't they both win?

  40. Kathy dru

    Kathy dru5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad is playing very well. Ohtani is doing something that hasn’t been done a 100 years. MVP goes to Ohtani.

  41. Michael Jordan

    Michael Jordanਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @John Anderson You good bro? 🤭

  42. Memer

    Memer2 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Just cuz he’s unique doesn’t mean he’s the most VALUABLE

  43. Blu Mindset

    Blu Mindset2 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Two Seasons it does matter Bc it doesn’t matter how famous he has been terrible since July

  44. Jason Jia

    Jason Jia4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @John Anderson Vlad hasn't pitch 1 inning it.

  45. Tootspogs Forever

    Tootspogs Forever5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @John Anderson hasn't done anything since July?? are you even watching?? he's been pitching better except for that Houston game

  46. mikey90504

    mikey905045 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    If Vlad Jr. hits 10 more HR's than Ohtani, it still does not matter. Ohtani IS still the AL MVP this year! No doubt!

  47. Manic Dre

    Manic Dre5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Lmao delusional

  48. Scooby Baseball

    Scooby Baseball5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    It’s ohtani no matter what happens even if he gets injured he’s mvp guarantee there’s not a chance he has a higher war

  49. Thelonious M

    Thelonious M5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Where is Stephen A to point out that Vladdy can't speak English...Oh, thats right, Vladdy is black so it doesn't matter.

  50. Mrs Mary

    Mrs Mary5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Maskoffweb, are so the best

  51. Mrs Mary

    Mrs Mary5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Maskoffweb are so the best

  52. Steven Huynh

    Steven Huynh6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Shohei no question. The guy has brought back baseball along with new fans for the sport. He is a global sensation and not to mention he can play on both sides of the field on an elite level. Once in a lifetime talent right there.

  53. Nghi Bui

    Nghi Bui17 ਘੰਟੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Memer He is, He was leading in HR and not hitting full-time like Vlad.

  54. Nghi Bui

    Nghi Bui17 ਘੰਟੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @CarolCityCane305 I don't even know who Tatis is, I watch baseball because of ohtani. Tatis is regional, Shohei is global baby

  55. Boe O

    Boe O2 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Memer Technically it does. He can Hit, Pitch, Bunt, And Steal bases. He's better than Vlad.

  56. Memer

    Memer2 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    JUST BEAUSE HE CAN PLAY BOTH WAYS DOESNT MEAN HE IS BETTER THAN VLAD. SHOHEI CANT PLAY IN THE NL. AND JUST CUZ HES UNIQUE DOESNT MEAN HE IS THE BETTER PLAYER.

  57. Yung_Grouch

    Yung_Grouch4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Yes we understand that but this the most valuable player not best player or most talented player. Vladdy can have better numbers across the board and is on a playoff contending team. Angels are junk with ohtani on there

  58. David Ardelo

    David Ardelo6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I'm only agreeing with Vlad Jr because his team is winning

  59. NEA

    NEA6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Wait how did this guy ended with a russian name 🤣

  60. javier book shadows contributor du

    javier book shadows contributor du6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    103rd comment

  61. Louie Boone

    Louie Boone6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    More than 70% Of The eyeballs watching ball games are gamblers,. and we don't give a _uck about the personal opinions of clowns on the screen or who's the mvp ..we simply care about winning our bets... that's why we suffer through these mostly boring games...Dump the talkers..get more pickers.... you'll do a lot more eyeballs.

  62. Matt Hoffman

    Matt Hoffman6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is doing something that hasn’t been done in 90 years but my only argument is the angels record. It’s not very good. So how are we going to give an MVP to someone on a team who doesn’t have a good record? Doesn’t make much sense.

  63. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    It's a freakin miracle the Angels are two games under .500. Without Ohtani this team would be the Orioles West. Vlad Jr. Plays on a pretty stacked team with arguable one of the best lineups in baseball and some great starting pitching. Take Vlad out of Toronto they're still probably in the Playoff hunt. It makes a lot of sense to me.

  64. part time meme dealer

    part time meme dealer6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    If I had to vote today I'd say vlad Jr he is better now and means more to his teams success. Sho is a fantastic player but he means less to his team because they were always not going to be in serious playoffs contention with him or without him

  65. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Means more to his team, with a stacked lineup and great starting pitching? They'll still be in the playoff hunt even without him. Ohtani is caring the whole trashcan called the Angels on his back to .500!!! LOL.

  66. G B

    G B6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    It was always Vlad... the voters suck. Let's go Blue Jays!

  67. Carolina F. Gann

    Carolina F. Gann6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    i n t e l l e c t w e b s you are the best i n t e l l e c t w e b s you are awesome

  68. Patrick Collins

    Patrick Collins6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    No way lol offensively they are not far apart, defensively it’s not even close, shohei pitches as well and is relatively good at pitching (having a great year) shohei is so valuable to that team it’s really not even close.

  69. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @gfear24 Yeah look at the roster of both teams. Both players switch teams and Angels are worst with Vlad then without. Where are they going to get those 9 wins? I'm pretty sure Vlad Jr. ain't going to go out on the mound. Not even close.

  70. gfear24

    gfear245 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Defensively it's not close? Vladdy is one of the best defensive 1B in all of baseball this year. What has Ohtani's production done for the Angels record? 4 games under .500. 14 back in the division. Zero hope at eve a wild card play in game. Meanwhile Vladdy's production has helped the Jays to 2nd in the division, the #1 wild card spot. 18 games above .500. If you want to have a Most Outstanding Player of the year award, then yes, Ohtani deserves it. This is the Most VALUABLE Player of the year. And for that, a teams record actually matters.

  71. john John

    john John6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    We have seen triple crown winners before, we have never seen what Ohtani is doing. He is getting it done hitting and pitching against the best in the league, Vlad is just hitting.

  72. john John

    john John5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Adam Adamson Nov 12th

  73. Adam Adamson

    Adam Adamson5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @john John I guess we will have to watch some baseball and find out

  74. john John

    john John5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Adam Adamson I can see that thought process but until his stats become the "norm" in the league it will probably always be WOW.

  75. Adam Adamson

    Adam Adamson5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I'll agree that ohtani has had a historic season but after this year I don't think it will have the same kind of wow factor

  76. john John

    john John5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Adam Adamson Here are some of the requirements for the MVP voting. It still comes down to the voter but seriously there were games were Ohtani did everything on is own, of course he had support, but striking out 8-10 batters then hitting HR's, stealing bases etc. If he has the same year or better he should definitely be the MVP again, right now no other player can do what he is doing. Triple Crown is impressive but not as impressive as a true 5 star player! However, like I said the voters have different views on the definition, it's like a boxing judge they like what they like. 1. Actual value of a player to his team, that is, strength of offense and defense. 2. Number of games played. 3. General character, disposition, loyalty and effort. 4. Former winners are eligible.

  77. J-876 King

    J-876 King6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Here's my pet peeve with this "Ohtani for MVP" narrative: when do you draw the line and eventually say "yeah he can hit and pitch, but should he be in MVP considerations each year just because he can do both" Not to mention he's not even in the top category of pitching stats, only thing that's saving his MVP narrative is the home runs Edit: Boe O is a rêt🅰️řd

  78. J-876 King

    J-876 King3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Boe O whatever rét🅰️řd 🤷🏾‍♂️

  79. Boe O

    Boe O3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @J-876 King Does Vlad have 20 Plus Stolen Bases? Does Vlad have an ERA of 3.36 in 115 Innings with 136 Strikeouts? Not to mention his 40 plus homers, 90 plus Runs scored, 90 plus Runs batted In, and Is in contention for a Gold Glove at the Pitchers position. Vlad is the BETTER hitter, but that doesn't mean he should win MVP. You Vlad supporters love to ignore the Stats Ohtani has both as a pitcher and hitter. Vlad is not in the same league as Ohtani. It's a Fact. Not an Opinion. Deal with it and have a nice day

  80. Boe O

    Boe O3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @J-876 King Oh wait your just going to ignore a 2 Way season like it's nothing and give the MVP to a great hitter who can barley field 1st and run.

  81. Boe O

    Boe O3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @J-876 King Why would he be in the Cy young Race he doesn't have enough innings stupid.

  82. J-876 King

    J-876 King3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Boe O last I checked he's not in any conversation for Cy Young Narrative MVP 🤷🏾‍♂️ Rét🅰️řd

  83. MRMC

    MRMC6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    How can you give an award due to it happening twice in 45 years, whilst saying Ohtani is doing something not seen in 80 years lmao what kind of logic is that?

  84. JOHN CHANG

    JOHN CHANG6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    NOPE ...SHOHEI IS MVP......favoring skin color is NO NO NO ........

  85. Sandeep Sen

    Sandeep Sen6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    If what someone is doing once in a hundred years doesn't get him MVP just cancel the whole MVP thing.

  86. G Engell

    G Engell4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @CarolCityCane305 thats why I said “if blue Jays make it in the playoffs Guerrero May have a chance”.

  87. CarolCityCane305

    CarolCityCane3054 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @G Engell he’s playing for the blue jays in the AL East by far the hardest division in baseball

  88. G Engell

    G Engell4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @CarolCityCane305 vladimir is a first baseman. First basemen are considered almost as a DH. For a DH or a first baseman to win a MVP title it requieres a lot (which no doubt Guerrero has excelled), when competing against Ohtani Im not sure they’ll go for it. Besides, Vladimir plays for a Canadian team. And yes, that is a factor. Only way Guerrero wins the MVP is if blue Jays make it the playoffs and Guerrero makes his case there.

  89. CarolCityCane305

    CarolCityCane3055 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @G Engell how sad u only see vlad as a home run hitter so should I see ohtani as a strikeout hitter with a 263 batting aberage

  90. G Engell

    G Engell5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Two Seasons yes, Ohtani is definitely the better baseball player. Is like when I played in little league, there were the chubby overweight kid who knock the ball out of the park like no one on the team, but can’t run fast enough to beat a double play. Then you have the other slim athletic kid that pitches, bats, runs, fields, can play any position with ease, and still hits with enough power. That second kid was the better baseball player.

  91. Joker

    Joker6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    This kid is 22....even if he doesn't win it this year...I promise you he will have a couple in his future...his swing is just perfection

  92. Na Na

    Na Na6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani will likely win MVP and i'll be happy, but I'm getting a bad feeling and that feeling keeps growing by day. It's like all the noise and high expectation affects him in a bad way. He'll have to do way better next season or the season after to impress people, if he can't do that..this season might be the only time he has a chance at MVP.

  93. Matt Hoffman

    Matt Hoffman5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Na Na well there you go he has a sore arm. I’m telling you. Soooooooo many players come into the league and play great for a couple of years and then injury hits and it’s basically over for them. That’s exactly what will happen to Ohtani unless he sticks to being a hitter only. He can’t pitch consistently without getting hurt.

  94. Na Na

    Na Na5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Man, I'm telling you something happening with Ohtani since Allstar. Today he made it to Time's Most Influential People..but in today's game he didn't play well. The more prestige he receive, the more he continues to be bad or what? He had enough rest, so it's not physical fatigue. It must be a mental thing. I feel bad for him.

  95. Na Na

    Na Na6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Matt Hoffman That's why I feel like this whole thing is bittersweet. It's seem like it'll be downhill from here, but I hope not. Even if he does continue performing exactly the same in the future, People will want more from him. They'll gonna get tired of the same act.

  96. Matt Hoffman

    Matt Hoffman6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I’ll be happy to be wrong but with his injury past I find it very difficult to believe he can do this season in and out. Maybe 2-3 seasons max and then an injury will hit. Again, I’d be happy to be wrong and if we see that he’s this generational talent that can actually put up the numbers for years that would be great for baseball

  97. YourCitySports

    YourCitySports6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    He already has...

  98. Black Jeep Convertible

    Black Jeep Convertible6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Not even close lol

  99. soulslayer434

    soulslayer4346 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I dont know. Ohtani is great because his Pitching and Homeruns but otherwise his Hitting stats arent really on Vladdy's level and hes not a bad pitcher but he wouldnt be on any Cy Young votes. What Ohtani is doing is unique though and he will win because its prob a better story for the league. If he doesnt win the HR race over Vladdy I dont think hes done any 1 thing better than anyone which doesnt really scream MVP to me personally.

  100. Sleep Time

    Sleep Time5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    He was walked too many times.

  101. Jay The Activist

    Jay The Activist6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Triple double isn’t common either Wilbon lol

  102. Two Seasons

    Two Seasons6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Let me know when Vladimir did something that hasn't been done in 100 years. I'll wait, no I can't, no one today will see it again....

  103. Yashica

    Yashica6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Make a new award for ohtani...he's done someting out of one's reach then give mvp to vlady....because you can't give them both as comparing such historic season of shohei to vlad's it'll be unfair to ohtani then.

  104. hello man

    hello man6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @David right But Babe Ruth never pitch and hit in the same season. Ohtani is having the single greatest year of all time in Baseball and not winning MVP will kill Baseball forever.

  105. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    there have been 12 triple crown seasons in the MLB... there has been only 1 Babe Ruth

  106. Chi3f

    Chi3f6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Shohei revived the game.

  107. Lucas Figgy

    Lucas Figgy4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Na Na na they just gotta win

  108. Na Na

    Na Na5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Arthur Au two awards could help voters fatigue as well. People get tired of awarding the same person year after year that they start unnecessary nitpicking, or they pick the wrong person because they want someone new, regardless of how the players performed that season.

  109. CarolCityCane305

    CarolCityCane3055 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Arthur Au what is he doing for mvp? He’s been trash since the all star break and don’t forget vlad plays in the AL East

  110. Arthur Au

    Arthur Au5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    MLB should have two awards, the MVP and the MOP. Ohtani wins the Most VALUABLE player award while Vlad Jr wins the Most OUTSTANDING player award.

  111. Na Na

    Na Na6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    he is the epitome of most valuable player. but he has to do something insane next season or people will get bored of him.

  112. Sports Cards TV

    Sports Cards TV6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    There are 9 players on the field and 9 people who bat. Vlad is not winning the games by himself the same as Shohei is not losing the games. Shohei is probably the main reason the angels have as many wins as they do because of the offensive/defensive aspects. Shohei Ohtani is the only man in baseball who can win a game by himself by pitching shutouts and bombing homers. Not to mention the whole 1st since BABE RUTH thing. Think about that.

  113. Sports Cards TV

    Sports Cards TV5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Arthur Au Being a 2-way player has nothing to do with it. Being great as a 2-way on both sides does. There is a difference.

  114. Arthur Au

    Arthur Au5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    In that case then, you could award Ohtani the MVP every season until he retires because he is baseball only 2 way player.

  115. A & J

    A & J6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    They forgot to count those intentional walks? how many home could have been made out of those intentional walks? He could have 50+ HRs now

  116. James B. Harris

    James B. Harris6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    if Vlad wins triple crown yes

  117. Eric Bilodeau

    Eric Bilodeau6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Forget just the triple crown. He's currently leading the AL in Hits, runs, HRs, batting average, on base, slugging, ops, ops+, total bases. If he takes the lead in RBIs as well it would be criminal to not make him MVP. It would be the most complete hitting season in MLB history. Nothing similar would have ever been accomplished We're talking about Ohtani is doing something that hasn't been done in 80+ years, but Vlad will be doing something that hasn't EVER been done, not in 150 years

  118. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @David right Thank you!!! Been saying this all along.

  119. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Look at the teams they are playing on. What shohei is doing with that trash of a team, getting close to .500 is a freakin miracle. Shohei on the Toronto Pitching staff along with that lineup yeah. Take Vlad out of Toronto they'll still be in the playoff hunt.

  120. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Eric Bilodeau During his batting title winning season in the American League, Olerud slashed a laughable .363/.473/.599, adding 24 home runs, 107 RBI, and 54 (!) doubles. His OPS was an astonishing 1.072 and he end up with 7.8 bWAR, finishing third in AL MVP voting that year. For those that remember watching that season as it was happening, you’ll likely remember that Olerud was making headlines because he was flirting with the .400 mark for a good portion of the season. It was an exciting time, and while his batting average tapered off in September, Olerud was still hitting .400 on August 2nd, Jaysjournal

  121. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Eric Bilodeau seriously I would put a Blue Jay like Olerud flirting with 400 Batting Average over Vladi any day. And Vladi team is stacked with better hitters than those 93 Jays. forcing pitchers to pitch to him

  122. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Eric Bilodeau where are you getting best/most complete hitting season? Vladi has 171 hits... sure there is 2 weeks left to go...But for the most hits in a season????? the top 500 in history starts at 200 hits

  123. HOFHooper

    HOFHooper6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Yeah but Vladdy is also second in batting average, 1st in hits, first in runs, first in home runs, 3rd in runs batted in, 3rd in on base percentage, second in slugging percentage, second in OPS, first in War. You can’t argue that while Ohtani isn’t a top hitter at base or a pitcher anymore, while Vladdy has been consistently all season.

  124. HOFHooper

    HOFHooper4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Ben Dover I guess we’ll never know 🤷🏻‍♂️

  125. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Look at the two rosters Ohtani with the Blue Jays would have at least 4 more wins and have as much bombs and maybe even more RBI's then with the Angels. Vlad Jr. with the Angels would probably put up the same numbers but have 9 more losses then the Angels have now. Love Vlad but not even close.

  126. HOFHooper

    HOFHooper6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @David right didn’t even know who Ohtani was till this season. Vladdy was always right behind in home runs, and Vladdy is the best at bat in the league.. and ur comparison doesn’t work…. Notice how you had to say a good chunk of the season… that really says a lot about what you had to say..

  127. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @HOFHooper who says Ohtani was suppose to put up elite numbers playing both ways? I guarantee people like you were saying he coudnt play both ways for a whole season without getting injured. that was the criteria Thats why I am watching just to see if he could do it... the fact that he was putting up elite level numbers hitting and pitching for a good chunk of the season, is just icing on the cake the fact that Vladi just caught him in home run race with 2 weeks left to go... Just goes over your head doesent it? thats like that Canadian Decathlete whose Decathlon Long Jump... would have got him 3rd at the Olympics. But you saying there is 2 better Long Jumpers than him, how come he couldnt jump as far as the other 2 who had better jumps, if he is the best athlete

  128. HOFHooper

    HOFHooper6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @David right now if he isn’t consistent anymore why should he still be the head huncho for MVP when he’s not a top 10 hitter or pitcher, doesn’t make sense. The awards Vladdys to win.

  129. ラファエルアルベルト

    ラファエルアルベルト6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Respect for Vlad!!! But ITS a no brainer....ohtani ITS the MVP

  130. D B

    D B6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    after tonight's game no

  131. Dan kool

    Dan kool6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    All the talk there haven't been a 2 way player like Babe Ruth in a 100yrs and Shohei is playing lights out IN BOTH,how is he not MVP..

  132. Jason Jia

    Jason Jia4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @John Anderson He is a elite pitcher since July

  133. Jason Jia

    Jason Jia4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @John Anderson so?

  134. vegan skeptic

    vegan skeptic6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Sure, if Vlad starts pitching at an elite level

  135. Tim Galez

    Tim Galez6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I think vladdy will need to win the triple crown to win MVP

  136. iAmHush_

    iAmHush_6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    They just need to do a co-mvp. They’re both having incredible seasons

  137. Yashica

    Yashica6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    problem is you can't compare ohtani's out of the world historic season which nobody has ever had to vlady's best even if he wins the triple crown.

  138. iAmHush_

    iAmHush_6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is special talent. But vlad jr is doing something that never happens. Triple crowns only happened 12 times.

  139. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    LOL doing something that never happens. Only 12 times. Your argument is pretty funny. The last time someone did what Ohtani is doing is 100 years ago and arguably not as impressive as what Ohtani is doing today. Too funny.

  140. Spends Shanks

    Spends Shanks6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    That’s a terrible argument

  141. Hever Pacheco

    Hever Pacheco6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani only happens every century lol

  142. SP 29

    SP 296 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Sad cos Vlad is a clear MVP if he is playing in NL

  143. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    yeah because years from now you are going to tell the grandkids how Vladi won the triple crown 2021 (done 12 times in the MLB) over a guy doing something not seen since Babe Ruth did it

  144. Hot Fire

    Hot Fire6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Honestly he’s already passed him IMO

  145. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    LMAO!!!

  146. Jason Jia

    Jason Jia4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    lol

  147. Mark B

    Mark B6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Easy, give it to both of them

  148. Jake Leibowitz

    Jake Leibowitz6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    vlad is having the better season tecnecally speaking but what shohei has done this season has never been done before...he will prob win this year, vlad jr has many more MVP's coming his way if he keeps it up

  149. Williams lebron

    Williams lebron6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Hot Firelol. You must be a casual baseball fan. Glad a lot of analysts are not like you.

  150. Na Na

    Na Na6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    yeah vlad is younger, his future is brighter while the high expectations for ohtani in future seasons will make it harder for him.

  151. Hot Fire

    Hot Fire6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Williams lebron Vladdy is way better and numbers are way better period!!

  152. Williams lebron

    Williams lebron6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Technically?? Are you kidding me?? Ohtani still leads in WAR while opens up one roster spot.

  153. Hot Fire

    Hot Fire6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allen Ross Exactly, Vladdy is playing better and going to the playoffs

  154. Flamesboyevan Skills

    Flamesboyevan Skills6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani doesn't even have 10 wins and he hits 2:60, Guerrero is ahead for sure

  155. Logical

    Logical6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I'm a blue jays fan but Shohei is without question MVP. You cannot match his value of pitching + hitting.

  156. Dr DisresFakeTaxi

    Dr DisresFakeTaxi3 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Dr. D Ross Jr is not even a top 10000 pitcher

  157. Alex Fung

    Alex Fung4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    If this is true he'll be mvp every year than since no one else does both.

  158. Dr. D Ross

    Dr. D Ross4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Biju Thomas shoehi is not even close to a top 5 pitcher

  159. Biju Thomas

    Biju Thomas5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    If he just hit he would be 2nd , he will also get cy young votes. He is the best hitter, pitcher and runner on his team and top 5 hitter and pitcher in the whole league.Babe Ruth wasnt close to as good as him on both sides in the same season.

  160. Pohn O'Shaw

    Pohn O'Shaw6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani gots it easy..

  161. Karnige

    Karnige6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    vladdy MVP. its a no brainer. in AL, more HR (first in AL) more hits (first in AL) better AVG (first in AL) more runs(first in AL) better OB%(first in AL) better slugging% (first in AL) better on base slugging(first in AL) more RBIs (3rdth in AL) more walks (4th in AL) less Ks

  162. Michael Wankewycz

    Michael Wankewycz4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Ben Dover well, they do get to play the Rangers 19 times.

  163. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Michael Wankewycz Riiight and look at the two rosters. A garbage team where Ohtani is freakin caring on his back to Vlad Jr. who has arguably the best lineup in baseball and a better starting pitching staff. No Trout, no Rendon, no Upton, no starting pitching. LMAO. Just love all the people who who has no clue as to what Ohtani is doing. It's a freakin miracle the Angels are 2 games under .500.

  164. Michael Wankewycz

    Michael Wankewycz4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Joe Percy and when he's not pitching, other than a few random innings in the outfield, Ohtani is exclusively a DH. Vlad plays the field and has 120 games loggef in at 1st base. How low are we going to set the bar for a hitter who can pitch? .255 batting average and 9 wins with not much over 100 innings pitched. There's a slew of other pitchers with better stats that have roughly yhe same innings pitched that are going to get zero consideration for the Cy Young (Rodon, Bieber, Bauer just to name a few off the top of my head) Winning the triple crown and leading a team to a late season comeback charge into the playoffs is more valuable.

  165. DooDoo Poop

    DooDoo Poop6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    How many innings did he pitch? Honestly, when a guy is doing the job of two star players on just one paycheck....

  166. Joe Percy

    Joe Percy6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Does he also pitch?

  167. Marcus Davy

    Marcus Davy6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad is mvp imo. Ohtani is mvp cuz he’s also a pitcher? I don’t think that’s a fair evaluation of mvp, pretty much from the sounds of it you have to be a pitcher and hit to win mvp if we are going by this criteria

  168. Mastersanada

    Mastersanada6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allen Ross Winning is only a part of it. if he’s carrying his team by having pretty solid batting and pitching stats he’s more valuable in that he can play both sides of the ball for his team. His overall impact for his team is to be considered, even if his team can’t stand behind him and pull off wins. Offensive is important, but having a player that excels in both offensive and defense is a huge impact. His value rockets up because he’s 1 player who’s covering 2 roles that haven’t been covered together in forever. 1 paycheck, 2 players, 2 roster spots in 1 roster spot.

  169. Two Seasons

    Two Seasons6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allen Ross Tell that to Trout when he won.

  170. Allen Ross

    Allen Ross6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @BE4ST why arent they winning games then

  171. Marcus Davy

    Marcus Davy6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allan Allan terribly bad standard

  172. BE4ST

    BE4ST6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Most valuable player. Ohtani brings more value

  173. Larry Lewis

    Larry Lewis6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Vlad hands down he is triple crown whole league not just the AL… come on now

  174. Isaac Williams

    Isaac Williams6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Yes, if he starts pitching.

  175. mikey90504

    mikey905045 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    AND steals bases.

  176. Thelonious M

    Thelonious M5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Pitching? he can barely play first base.

  177. Lloyd Bonafide

    Lloyd Bonafide6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Ohtani is literally the most valuable player for MLB right now. He plays both sides of the field at a high level. Its not close. Sorry.

  178. Tootspogs Forever

    Tootspogs Forever5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allen Ross racist much???😀

  179. Boe O

    Boe O5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Mike trout plays for a trash Angels team does suck? No. Casuals 😂

  180. Allen Ross

    Allen Ross5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @John Anderson its crazy to me how they just overlook his stats. Yea he pitches and hits, so did zack grienke. If you wanna give him a cy young go ahead, but as a hitter he is literally adam dunn 2.0 lol

  181. Kathy dru

    Kathy dru5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Agree. Ohtani for mvp.

  182. Tyler Riley

    Tyler Riley6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @A & J but what you’re doing should be able to contribute to wins, therefore what your doing is valuable to winning. Vladdy is one of the main reasons why the blue jays are potentially playoff bound.

  183. Mr8 YouTube

    Mr8 YouTube6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    I don’t watch baseball but no I guess

  184. Bill Nye

    Bill Nye6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    Doubt it. Ohtani does it all. Stop the disrespect

  185. Bill Nye

    Bill Nye5 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @David right your last name makes sense.

  186. David right

    David right6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Josh Ford so if Shohei decided to join the Yankees or if Shohei had demanded a trade or done the lebron thing, get players to come or run off to other teams to make super teams? then he would be the "Most Valuable Player"

  187. OuZi

    OuZi6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allen Ross Asian privilege? Hahahahah

  188. Hot Fire

    Hot Fire6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Allen Ross your eyes are open

  189. Allen Ross

    Allen Ross6 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ

    @Logical asian priveldge, just simone biles faking an injury to let suni lee win, and the asian golfers winning majors out of nowhere. Learn gematria